Comments on: Year of the Killer Task Management App: Wrap Up http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/ mac-centric notes, reviews, tips, etc. Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:05:28 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Troy (admin) http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-585 Troy (admin) Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:52:52 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-585 That's a really good point, George. Things can't do that. I would like to update the OF and Things reviews someday, but only after I get to the LONG, LONG overdue organizer app reviews I've been wanting to get back to for about a year now ... think I'm going to have the time starting in July! Appreciate the feedback. That’s a really good point, George. Things can’t do that. I would like to update the OF and Things reviews someday, but only after I get to the LONG, LONG overdue organizer app reviews I’ve been wanting to get back to for about a year now … think I’m going to have the time starting in July! Appreciate the feedback.

]]> By: George http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-582 George Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:15:18 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-582 Hi ! Late comment, but I wanted to add one aspect that made me chose OF over Things (I have paid for both): Outlining in OF allows me think about and brainstorm on projects. In Things I would need an additional programme. Maybe you could update the reviews, especially OF has improved a lot (I had originally left it for Things, because of the lack of Due Date sorting). Anyway, thanks for the great reviews ! George Hi !

Late comment, but I wanted to add one aspect that made me chose OF over Things (I have paid for both):
Outlining in OF allows me think about and brainstorm on projects. In Things I would need an additional programme.

Maybe you could update the reviews, especially OF has improved a lot (I had originally left it for Things, because of the lack of Due Date sorting).

Anyway, thanks for the great reviews !

George

]]> By: AM http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-390 AM Sun, 28 Dec 2008 06:43:01 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-390 Hi there, Just wanted to thank you for taking the time to review/compare these GTD apps. I am new to the whole GTD concept and have been looking for a software tool that would work for me in this regard. Your reviews of four of the main ones for the Mac have been a very helpful starting point in what each offers (and what their limitations are). OF and Things look the most promising for what I want/need, so I'll look into them further. Thanks again! Hi there,

Just wanted to thank you for taking the time to review/compare these GTD apps. I am new to the whole GTD concept and have been looking for a software tool that would work for me in this regard. Your reviews of four of the main ones for the Mac have been a very helpful starting point in what each offers (and what their limitations are). OF and Things look the most promising for what I want/need, so I’ll look into them further.

Thanks again!

]]> By: Troy (admin) http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-343 Troy (admin) Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:03:24 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-343 Nesting todos is an important feature, but I think I'd turn to OmniOutliner for project outlining? As for the white-on-black, you can choose to view the site as black-on-white (via the Styles choice at the top of the left hand column). Thanks for the offer, but I enjoy working on the site design here in my living room. Cheers Nesting todos is an important feature, but I think I’d turn to OmniOutliner for project outlining? As for the white-on-black, you can choose to view the site as black-on-white (via the Styles choice at the top of the left hand column). Thanks for the offer, but I enjoy working on the site design here in my living room. Cheers

]]> By: Alec http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-342 Alec Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:09:38 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-342 Thanks for the writeup. I've ended up on Things as well, although whether it will outdo CircusPonies Notebook is an open question still. Not a lot of structure in CP Notebook, but great ability to nest todo's which is very important for project outlining. I agree about the white on black. I'm looking at your website in with stylesheets turned off finally (recommend that as a temporary solution to everyone else). If you'd like a redesign, let me know. We'll make you a very good offer. Thanks for the writeup. I’ve ended up on Things as well, although whether it will outdo CircusPonies Notebook is an open question still. Not a lot of structure in CP Notebook, but great ability to nest todo’s which is very important for project outlining.

I agree about the white on black. I’m looking at your website in with stylesheets turned off finally (recommend that as a temporary solution to everyone else). If you’d like a redesign, let me know. We’ll make you a very good offer.

]]> By: emmett http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-317 emmett Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:16:31 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-317 Oh yah I forgot iGTD - SUPER BUGY IGTD2 is quite different than iGDT. It seems to go in a very different direction. It's also missing a ton of functionality. Meaning contextual menus seems to have not been built yet. We will see TBD. -EM Oh yah I forgot iGTD – SUPER BUGY

IGTD2 is quite different than iGDT. It seems to go in a very different direction. It’s also missing a ton of functionality. Meaning contextual menus seems to have not been built yet. We will see TBD.

-EM

]]> By: emmett http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-316 emmett Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:12:11 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-316 It's really late and my eyes are burning. However, I have been feeling so close to so many applications for the last 30-60 days. Your post has been great. I love that you have a consistent review of each app and are able to compare apples to apples really well. The big issues I see are simple clean integration and syncing Ability to capture wide variety data Sort and organize data Keep it simple I have tried the following: FMP 8.5 and devloped personal/business solutions - complicated and isolated as opposed to integrated (powerful though) Bento - super wimpy and pretty Entourage: I just can't stomach it for many reasons Daylite: Close but no cigar. Too complicated in the places where it should be simple and too simple where it should be flexible Contactizer Pro: One of my favorites but has some holes. You can actually approximate GTD using smart filters through out. Omni Focus: Really like it. Although I am sill pushing it through paces. Things: competing with OF. I am aware some of my apps are not really GTD. That said, my goal is to get things done. I have been experimenting with them all. When I am not feeling so sleepy, I am happy be more specific with any of my feedback. - Peace EM It’s really late and my eyes are burning. However, I have been feeling so close to so many applications for the last 30-60 days. Your post has been great. I love that you have a consistent review of each app and are able to compare apples to apples really well.

The big issues I see are simple clean integration and syncing
Ability to capture wide variety data
Sort and organize data
Keep it simple

I have tried the following:

FMP 8.5 and devloped personal/business solutions – complicated and isolated as opposed to integrated (powerful though)

Bento – super wimpy and pretty

Entourage: I just can’t stomach it for many reasons

Daylite: Close but no cigar. Too complicated in the places where it should be simple and too simple where it should be flexible

Contactizer Pro: One of my favorites but has some holes. You can actually approximate GTD using smart filters through out.

Omni Focus: Really like it. Although I am sill pushing it through paces.

Things: competing with OF.

I am aware some of my apps are not really GTD. That said, my goal is to get things done. I have been experimenting with them all. When I am not feeling so sleepy, I am happy be more specific with any of my feedback. – Peace EM

]]> By: Chip http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-305 Chip Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:08:44 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-305 Thanks for the review and wrapup. I loved iGTD then jumped to KinklessGTD (but wound up going back to iGTD) and currently use OmniFocus extensively. OmniFocus feels like a re-hash of OmniOutliner Pro and I suppose it should, since it was inspired by Kinkless. The interface, for me, has much to be desired and that's why I began looking at Things (crikey couldn't they have come with a better name). If I do make the jump to Things it will be solely for the tagging feature. Despite all the available view in OF, tags offers a more simple viewing solution. Setting up perspectives is frankly a pain. Lastly, a GTD app would make a nice addition to iWork so here's hoping Apple takes notice of the explosive interest in this area. Thanks for the review and wrapup. I loved iGTD then jumped to KinklessGTD (but wound up going back to iGTD) and currently use OmniFocus extensively. OmniFocus feels like a re-hash of OmniOutliner Pro and I suppose it should, since it was inspired by Kinkless. The interface, for me, has much to be desired and that’s why I began looking at Things (crikey couldn’t they have come with a better name). If I do make the jump to Things it will be solely for the tagging feature. Despite all the available view in OF, tags offers a more simple viewing solution. Setting up perspectives is frankly a pain. Lastly, a GTD app would make a nice addition to iWork so here’s hoping Apple takes notice of the explosive interest in this area.

]]> By: chezfugu (admin) http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-198 chezfugu (admin) Wed, 09 Apr 2008 07:13:21 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-198 Thanks for taking the time to comment on this series. I appreciate the feedback! I am going to tweak the style sheet when I update this site in the very near future. I've had a few people say it's hard to read - sorry I gave you a headache. On a side note, you can change the interface icons within an app with CandyBar? I thought this app was just an easy way to change the main app icons. As for Things, Cultured Code is really producing something special. I haven't heard a negative review of it yet. People just seem to love it. If they added a note-taking tab and gave me the functionality of Yojimbo within Things, too, that would be one less app I needed. I think it would be handy to have my notes and to do list managed within the same framework. Last thing I hope they roll out soon after June with Things is web/iPhone/iPod Touch synching and update-from-anywhere functionality. Thanks for taking the time to comment on this series. I appreciate the feedback! I am going to tweak the style sheet when I update this site in the very near future. I’ve had a few people say it’s hard to read – sorry I gave you a headache.

On a side note, you can change the interface icons within an app with CandyBar? I thought this app was just an easy way to change the main app icons.

As for Things, Cultured Code is really producing something special. I haven’t heard a negative review of it yet. People just seem to love it. If they added a note-taking tab and gave me the functionality of Yojimbo within Things, too, that would be one less app I needed. I think it would be handy to have my notes and to do list managed within the same framework.

Last thing I hope they roll out soon after June with Things is web/iPhone/iPod Touch synching and update-from-anywhere functionality.

]]> By: thisistheremix http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-197 thisistheremix Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:51:53 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-197 A fantastic series - thanks for taking the time to write out those long reviews! Personally, I started my GTD/Mac experience with the Kinkless kGTD scripts and OmniOutliner (I LOVE OmniOutliner!). Needless to say, I was extremely excited about OmniFocus (especially since they brought Merlin Mann along), but the $80 price point is just too much. Oh, and it seems that Merlin doesn't really think all that much of the application either, if his podcasts on MacBreak Weekly are any indication. So, with OmniOutliner prohibitively expensive (didn't even bother with the trial), I moved to iGTD. Simply put, I found it to be buggy, and I kept having to restart the app. I love a lot of the features (especially once I redid the interface icons with CandyBar), but the bugs were too much, and it was a bit too ugly still (and I agree - starting at all those empty fields wasn't cool). Next, I tried Inbox. Installed it, looked at the pretty interface, tried to use it, failed, deleted. Not for me. Lastly, I tried Cultured Code's Things. FINALLY, I think this is the one. I was a little taken aback by the lack of an obvious "Contexts" panel, but the tag filtering system is brilliant and oh-so flexible. Still seems a bit high at $50 (the $40 early-adopter price is better!), and some functionality isn't there, but I'm very excited for the 1.0 release. That's my two cents. Thanks for the reviews! ------ One final note: while I did in fact read every word from your 6 articles on this face-off, I think I need to take an Advil after starting at the small white-on-black text. A more reader-friendly style sheet would be an awesome addition to this site! A fantastic series – thanks for taking the time to write out those long reviews!

Personally, I started my GTD/Mac experience with the Kinkless kGTD scripts and OmniOutliner (I LOVE OmniOutliner!). Needless to say, I was extremely excited about OmniFocus (especially since they brought Merlin Mann along), but the $80 price point is just too much. Oh, and it seems that Merlin doesn’t really think all that much of the application either, if his podcasts on MacBreak Weekly are any indication.

So, with OmniOutliner prohibitively expensive (didn’t even bother with the trial), I moved to iGTD. Simply put, I found it to be buggy, and I kept having to restart the app. I love a lot of the features (especially once I redid the interface icons with CandyBar), but the bugs were too much, and it was a bit too ugly still (and I agree – starting at all those empty fields wasn’t cool).

Next, I tried Inbox. Installed it, looked at the pretty interface, tried to use it, failed, deleted. Not for me.

Lastly, I tried Cultured Code’s Things. FINALLY, I think this is the one. I was a little taken aback by the lack of an obvious “Contexts” panel, but the tag filtering system is brilliant and oh-so flexible. Still seems a bit high at $50 (the $40 early-adopter price is better!), and some functionality isn’t there, but I’m very excited for the 1.0 release.

That’s my two cents. Thanks for the reviews!

——

One final note: while I did in fact read every word from your 6 articles on this face-off, I think I need to take an Advil after starting at the small white-on-black text. A more reader-friendly style sheet would be an awesome addition to this site!

]]> By: fast vom spamfilter verdrückt.. - annieone’s weblog http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-83 fast vom spamfilter verdrückt.. - annieone’s weblog Sun, 17 Feb 2008 12:15:15 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-83 [...] übrigens hier eine schöne übersicht der vor- und nachteile der bislang am häufigsten beäugten getting things [...] [...] übrigens hier eine schöne übersicht der vor- und nachteile der bislang am häufigsten beäugten getting things [...]

]]> By: Zum Abhaken | Andy Macht http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-70 Zum Abhaken | Andy Macht Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:58:19 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-70 [...] nimmt GTD-Anwendungen unter die Lupe. Diese Programme sollen dabei helfen, Aufgaben abzuarbeiten. In dem recht kurzen Vergleich treten [...] [...] nimmt GTD-Anwendungen unter die Lupe. Diese Programme sollen dabei helfen, Aufgaben abzuarbeiten. In dem recht kurzen Vergleich treten [...]

]]> By: GTD-Applikationen im Vergleich - surfgarden http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-69 GTD-Applikationen im Vergleich - surfgarden Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:30:18 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-69 [...] Year of the Killer Task Management App: Wrap Up nimmt Inbox, iGTD, OmniFocus und Things näher unter die Lupe und kürt einen Gewinner. [...] [...] Year of the Killer Task Management App: Wrap Up nimmt Inbox, iGTD, OmniFocus und Things näher unter die Lupe und kürt einen Gewinner. [...]

]]> By: Mac Geeks » review of four famous task management applicatiions http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-65 Mac Geeks » review of four famous task management applicatiions Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:10:58 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-65 [...] See full article at View from the dock [...] [...] See full article at View from the dock [...]

]]> By: Getting Things Synced? | Mornography UK http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-64 Getting Things Synced? | Mornography UK Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:42:35 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-64 [...] you're into GTD/Todo List applications for OS X, you're spoilt for choice. View From The Dock has an interesting comparison (including detailed reviews of each option). My favourites are OmniFocus and Things, even though [...] [...] you’re into GTD/Todo List applications for OS X, you’re spoilt for choice. View From The Dock has an interesting comparison (including detailed reviews of each option). My favourites are OmniFocus and Things, even though [...]

]]> By: chezfugu (admin) http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-60 chezfugu (admin) Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:33:35 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-60 My postscript about syncing with the iPhone/iPod Touch seems to have disappeared. That's odd. WordPress can be quirky. Apparently, you read it, though, based on your comment! I agree that all the apps have a way to go with the sync. That's a great idea for the next series, but for now I need a break! I use DevonThink for creative writing notes, Yojimbo mostly for web code scraps, blog ideas, etc. and VoodooPad for story writing, by the way. Perhaps I use one too many, but each has strengths. It is hard to choose just one! Thanks again for reading the series! My postscript about syncing with the iPhone/iPod Touch seems to have disappeared. That’s odd. WordPress can be quirky. Apparently, you read it, though, based on your comment! I agree that all the apps have a way to go with the sync. That’s a great idea for the next series, but for now I need a break! I use DevonThink for creative writing notes, Yojimbo mostly for web code scraps, blog ideas, etc. and VoodooPad for story writing, by the way. Perhaps I use one too many, but each has strengths. It is hard to choose just one! Thanks again for reading the series!

]]> By: brab http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/comment-page-1/#comment-59 brab Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:42:18 +0000 http://www.viewfromthedock.com/2008/02/09/year-of-the-killer-task-management-app-wrap-up/#comment-59 Thanks a lot for this series. Synchronization is indeed a big deal, but unless I'm mistaken none of these programs solve it satisfactorily (I gave up on iGTD because of this, and OF is supposed to have it... in later versions). In case you're searching for review ideas, programs that let one organize reference material may be a logical next step. This field is quite crowded (Together, Yojimbo, EagleFiler, Journler, DevonThink, and Mori are a few ones that come to my mind right now) and it's a place where I find that Mac software excels. But choosing the right one is very tricky... Thanks a lot for this series. Synchronization is indeed a big deal, but unless I’m mistaken none of these programs solve it satisfactorily (I gave up on iGTD because of this, and OF is supposed to have it… in later versions).

In case you’re searching for review ideas, programs that let one organize reference material may be a logical next step. This field is quite crowded (Together, Yojimbo, EagleFiler, Journler, DevonThink, and Mori are a few ones that come to my mind right now) and it’s a place where I find that Mac software excels. But choosing the right one is very tricky…

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